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-Whoa.
-Whoa.

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Oh, that is so steep.
Don't look.

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[Josh] My team heads to
the deserts of New Mexico,

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to investigate one of the most
compelling UFO encounters
in American history.

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This is the case
that changed everything.
Right here.

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[Josh] Where
local law enforcement
report a bizarre craft.

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[Pablo] They saw
a great, big spaceship...

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[Josh] Piloted by
extraterrestrial beings.

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One of them
turned and faced him
and scared him.

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I was...

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It's steep up here.

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[Jessica] Trying not to fall
off the edge.

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[Josh] And according
to some...

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...they have returned.

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Different nuclear
military operations
made this kind of a hot-bed

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for UFO sightings.

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-Jess, get over here.
-[Jessica] Let me see,
let me see.

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Check that out.

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[Phil] What the... [bleep]

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What is this?

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[Josh] UFOs Over New Mexico.

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My name is Josh Gates.

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In my travels,
I have experienced
strange things

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that defy logic.
And made me question
everything.

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Oh, my God!

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Now, I've put together
a team to investigate

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the stranger side
of the unknown.

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Let's go.

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[Josh] Phil Torres
is a scientist

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who hunts for rational
explanations.

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[Josh] Jessica Chobot's
paranormal research,

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has made her a true believer.

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Phil, do you see that?

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[whispering] I just saw
something right across.

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[Josh] Together,
we're searching for answers...

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[Phil]
What is that?

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[Josh] ...to the world's
most extraordinary mysteries.

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This isExpedition X.

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Phil and Jess,
I hope you're ready.
We got a wild one today.

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What you got?

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Well, Phil, even you,
Mr. Science,
are no doubt familiar with

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-the 1947 Roswell incident,
in New Mexico?
-Right.

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When the poor weather balloon
crashed there,
it was terrible.

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-Are you for real right now?
-All right, stay calm,
Jess, stay calm.

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Well, what if I told you,
that there was another

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potentially even
more significant incident,
that occurred

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only a 140 miles from Roswell,
about 15 years later.

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Not a crash,
but supposedly an actual
landing of a UFO.

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And allegedly
a close encounter
with alien beings.

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So, you're talking
the Lonnie Zamora incident,
Socorro, New Mexico.

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Unbelievable. You never fail
to impress me, Jess.

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Amazing!

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Before we dive into it,

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Phil, you have gone on record
to saying you think that...

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extraterrestrials could be
out there, somewhere, right?

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Out there for sure.
I mean, scientists believe
that there are

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over 400 billion galaxies
in our universe.

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And in our galaxy alone,
they found several hundred
habitable planets.

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The more controversial debate,
of course, is whether
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-have come here.
-Right.

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That brings us back
to the Zamora incident.

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When this occurred,
the US government
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and they couldn't solve it.
It remains unsolved.

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Locals in this area believe
that the Zamora incident
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and they're still
having experiences.

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Experiences that they say,
can end the debate
over extraterrestrials,

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once and for all.

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New Mexico ranks among
the states with the most
UFO sightings in the country.

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With reports nearly doubling
in the last two years.

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And they're still on the rise.

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But if we trace
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it begins with
the Roswell incident in 1947.

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And perhaps,
an even stranger event
just 15 years later.

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The year is 1964,
Socorro, New Mexico.

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At approximately45 p.m.,
police sergeant Lonnie Zamora
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a reckless driver
just outside of town.

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When he hears a loud roar
followed by a large flame
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off the highway.

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He breaks off the chase
to investigate.

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When he crests a hill,
he claims to see
an oval-shaped object,

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emblazoned
with a strange symbol,
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with two small beings
next to what it appears to be,
a spaceship.

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As he approaches on foot,
the craft suddenly lifts
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and races away
across the desert sky.

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Zamora is shaken,
and calls in his encounter
to the local dispatch.

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The next day,
the governments'
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Project Bluebook,
sends their top investigators
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where they record
physical evidence.

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Charred shrub,
indentations in the soil,
and even small footprints.

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But, Project Bluebook
is shut down in 1969,
without ever solving the case.

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Lonnie Zamora dies in 2009.

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Despite a lifetime of scrutiny
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he never wavered
that what he saw
was from another world.

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And just recently,
hundreds of declassified
federal documents have emerged

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about the Zamora incident,
reinvigorating the mystery.

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On top of that,
some say UFOs have returned
to Socorro.

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Recently,
a mass sighting was seen
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including pilots,
military personnel
and civilians,

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all claiming
to see unidentified objects
in the sky

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and putting
the city of Socorro back
under the cosmic microscope.

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So, guys, what do you think?

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I'll admit, Lonnie Zamora
seems like he was
a very credible witness.

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He wasn't just some random guy
with a tinfoil hat.

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He was
a trained police officer.

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Yeah and I think
that's a good point

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because law enforcement
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the typical people
to come forward
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That's what makes this case
so fascinating.

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And the fact that there are
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means it is the perfect time
to reopen this case.

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So, I've been trying
to get in contact with some
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from this new mass sighting,

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but so far they've all been
very reluctant to go public.

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But I'm gonna keep working
those leads,

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and I think that
where you should start

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is to really try to understand
the original Zamora incident.

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And see if it could
be connected to the sightings
that are happening today.

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You up for this?

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Hell, yeah!

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-Sounds like a plan.
-All right,
go have a close encounter.

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My team hops on
a 2000 mile flight

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from New York City
to Albuquerque.

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Then, drive 76 mile south
to the small town of Socorro.

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While I try to line up
a credible eyewitness

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for the recent UFO sighting
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I'm directing Jess and Phil
to dig deeper
into the Zamora incident.

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[Phil] Out of any
of the investigations
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I feel like UFOs are the most
likely to actually exist.

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-Oh my--
-Out of all of them.

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Who knew? You are a believer!

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But that doesn't mean
that every story that you hear
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or even the majority of them
are real.

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There's a lot of aspects
of the Socorro story
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tiny alien people coming out
of there. It's a little weird.

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I understand.
But, keep in mind
there was an eyewitness.

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And the government
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that they actually sent out
people to check out the scene.

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So, something must
have happened.

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I think there's
the potential there

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that Lonnie Zamora
actually encountered aliens.

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Well, the fact that they're
always conveniently bipedal,
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they have eyes,
they have hands...

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That all just seems
a little unimaginative

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to what's really out there
in the universe.

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My opinion, if something
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there is no doubt in my mind,
we would be taken over
and destroyed.

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That's the optimist
in you, Jess.

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[Phil] We've arrived
at the site
where Lonnie Zamora

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supposedly witnessed
an alien craft.

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-[Jessica] Is it hailing?
-[Phil] What? Oh my gosh.

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[Jessica] Oh, that is cold,
oh, yeah.

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-All sorts of weird things
coming out of the sky here.
-[Jessica] Yeah.

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[Josh] I've arranged for
my team to meet renowned
UFO investigator, James Fox.

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-[Jessica] Hi!
-Nice to meet you guys.

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[Josh] Two years ago,
James and I investigated

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another infamous UFO case
in Zimbabwe.

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Where in 1994,
62 school childrenclaimed to
witness a UFO landing.

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The details are
strikingly similar

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to what Lonnie Zamora reported
seeing in 1964.

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James is a filmmaker,
journalist and author,

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who has studied every detail
of the Zamora case
for over five years

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and has spent decades
pursuing answers
to the mysteries of UFOs.

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This is the case
that changed everything.
Right here.

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We came out here
to check out where
the actual landing occurred.

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Can you guys show us?

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-Absolutely.
-Yeah.

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-You wanna lead the way?
-Oh, sure.

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[Josh] With James,
is Pablo Lopez,

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who arrived at the scene
minutes after Lonnie Zamora

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reported the incident
to the authorities.

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He was 20 years old
at the time.

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[Pablo] This is the spot
where it landed.

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How did you end up here?

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I was at the sheriff's office.
My dad was a radio operator.

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And I went in
to visit with him.

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And Lonnie came over there
and he was really,
really scared.

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And he said he saw
a great big spaceship.

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He said, which had landed
right here.

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I came up here
with the sheriff.

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When I got here,
there was bushes here,
that were smoldering.

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They still had smoke
coming out of them,
and some fire.

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And there was footprints.

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The footprints were tiny,
they were probably
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And maybe an inch and a half,
two inches wide.

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-Like a three year old's?
-[Pablo] Yes.

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Lonnie said they weren't
over...that tall.

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One of them turned
and faced him
and it scared him...

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...out of his wits.

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What do you think landed here?

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A UFO.

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-Really?
-[Pablo] Yeah.

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Something like that,
something unexplainable.

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And officer Zamora
was a man's man, okay?

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-So, you knew him personally?
-[Pablo] I knew him
personally, yes.

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Officer Zamora
wasn't the same person
after this.

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He saw what he saw
and it was for real.

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I gotta admit, this is messing
with my brain a little bit.

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So, James, why this case?
Why does this one stand out
to you?

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This case right here,
is what gave Project Bluebook
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UFOs were not only real,
but the close encounters
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and that's cases
where witnesses report

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beings associated with
the craft.

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So, what are some of
the details that you've

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gleaned from
your investigating?

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There was a blue flame that
came down from this object,

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and it didn't hit the ground
and reflect, like
a rocket booster would do it,

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it penetrated into the ground.
And unlike anything
you've ever seen,

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this object rises to about
20 feet off the ground,

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and then it completely
shuts off all propulsion,
and is absolutely silent.

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You look at
the Air Force's own files.

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And they're saying that
what took place here,

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defies
a terrestrial explanation.

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I brought some documents
that I personally got
at the National Archives

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from Project Bluebook files.

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You can take a look
at some of these here.

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-Wow.
-[Jessica] These are great--

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-[Phil] Look at how charred
that is.
-[Jessica] Yeah.

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[James] So,
what I basically want
to illustrate here is,

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level of seriousness
that the Air Force took

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when they were investigating
this case.

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[Jessica] James
has meticulously compiled

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hundreds of official
government files on this case.

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And two things stand out.

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First,
the government investigation
was exhaustive.

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The site was extensively
combed for evidence,

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soil samples were taken
and scrutinized,

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every radar station within
a 100 miles was contacted.

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They even tried to match
the indentations
at the landing site

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with every variety of plane
and helicopter that was
operating in the region.

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Despite their efforts,
the Project Bluebook
investigators

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could not come up
with a rational explanation
for what happened.

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The other major takeaway,
the investigators
believed officer Zamora.

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Not only did they
consider him credible,

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but that this incident was,
and I quote,

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"The best authenticated
landing sighting on record".

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And, "One of the major
UFO sightings in the history
of the Air Force".

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So, what's your theory
on this then?

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Why would aliens be interested
in this area?

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I started looking at
sightings in the '40s and '50s
and '60s,

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and I actually took out a map.

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And I was looking at proximity
to different
nuclear military operations.

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You know,
Trinity Site 44 miles away,

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we got White Sands,
Holloman Air Force base.

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And I thought, there must be
some sort of correlation,

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with our nuclear activity,
our atomic activity,

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that had made this kind of
a hot bed for UFO sightings.

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[Jessica] Intense UFO activity
around our
most dangerous weapons

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would definitely be an issue
of national security.

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Thousands of nuclear tests
have been conducted
in these deserts.

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New Mexico still has
a stock-pile of
700 nuclear bombs

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and over 1,800 active
warheads, that could be
deployed in minutes.

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There are structured craft
of unknown origin,

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whizzing around with impunity,

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under super sensitive
military installations.

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We don't know who they are,
where they come from
or what they want.

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There are structured craft
of unknown origin,

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whizzing around with impunity,

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under super sensitive
military installations.

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We don't know who they are,
where they come from
or what they want.

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The military bases
are all around here,

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so I would just think
it's gonna be
a military craft.

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But you're saying that
because the military is here,

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that's why the UFOs are
interested in this location?

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That's one likely scenario.

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[Jessica] If Socorro's high
concentration of UFO sightings

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is due to its proximity
to the military installations
in the area,

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we need to pressure test
that theory.

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So, after reviewing
some topographical maps,

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we found the most perfect spot
to set up some surveillance.

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A mesa,
in the middle of the desert,
located between

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the landing site
of the Zamora incident
and White Sands Missile Range.

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It offers the perfect
elevated vantage point
to monitor the skies

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over Socorro to the north west
and White Sands to the south.

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Our objective is to reach
the mesa before nightfall,

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and investigate
for any unusual activity.

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But getting there?
That's the tricky part.

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[Phil] Come on.

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Oh! Woah.

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-Jess, up here?
-[Jessica] Yeah.

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We need to get to the
base of that mesa,
try to get up there.

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-[Jessica] Hike on up?
-Yeah.

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Hey Phil,
we got a river up ahead.

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[Phil] I'm not sure
how deep this thing is.
Hope these horses swim.

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-Looks like there's a passage
through here.
-[Jessica] Yeah, let's go.

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All right, Jess.
I don't think the horses
are gonna go any higher.

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[Jessica] I think
you're right.

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[Phil] The height
of this mesa,
which rises 1,200 feet,

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makes it ideal
for viewing the night sky
without any light pollution.

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Getting steep up here.

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But getting to the top
won't be easy.

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We're facing
a 70 per cent grade climb

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over loose shale
with the sheer drop off.

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-[Phil] You good?
-[Jessica] Yeah.

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[Jessica panting]

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Just looking for snakes,
trying not to fall off
the edge.

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[Phil] Yeah,
watch where you put
your hands.

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[Phil sighs in exhaustion]

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Could be
a snake hole anywhere.

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[Jessica grunts]

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[Phil] Jess, watch your step.

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Oh... [bleep]

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You got this.

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[panting]

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[Jessica grunts]

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Well, look around.

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We got sky
in every direction here.

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Well, if nothing else,
aliens will see us
and say,

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"Who are those two idiots
that got to top of that hill?"

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That's us, hey,
anything it takes.

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With nightfall upon us,
I'm attaching a low light lens
to one of our cameras,

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which will amplify
the surrounding lights

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and allow us
to more easily view objects

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that would usually be hidden
in darkness.

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Jess has brought
the flare camera,

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which has infrared sensors
that can detect
heat signatures

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from any airborne object.

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If there are any craft
in the sky tonight,

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we're gonna see them.

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We got 360 view
of this entire area.

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Because you have
such a good lock on
the stars in the sky,

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I'll search over here
with the flare
where the military bases are.

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Okay.

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There's been
a big uptake of sightings
from people in this area.

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So, just look for anything
that seems even slightly
out of the ordinary.

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-I do think between
this camera, and your flare...
-Mm-hm.

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...we should hopefully be able
to get whatever that
something is

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on tape, to help identify it.

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[Jessica] Yeah.

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[Phil] I'll be facing
northwest towards Socorro,

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where Lonnie Zamora
had his encounter.

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While Jess will scan
the southern skies towards

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Holloman Air Force base
and the White Sands
missile range.

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So right now,
I can see...

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the Milky Way,
and I'm also seeing
some movement. So...

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So far anything that's moving
and blinking, it's a plane.

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Anything that's moving
really, really steady
in one direction

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and not blinking,
that's a satellite.

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What I'm interested
is anything that's moving,

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that strays outside
of those parameters.

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Oh, I just saw
some lightning down there.

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[Jessica] Nothing yet.

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What the hell is that?

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00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,172
What the [bleep]

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00:18:06,206 --> 00:18:09,689
It's glowing, it's spinning.

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00:18:09,724 --> 00:18:11,000
Ryan, you getting this,
you getting this?

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Jess, right over that.

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-[Jessica] Look at over there!
-[Phil] Oh!

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00:18:18,551 --> 00:18:19,758
[bleep]

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[Jessica] Why is this
not showing up on my flare?

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[Phil] I got it on tape.
You seeing that?

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Is it showing up on the flare?

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00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:28,172
[Jessica] No, I can't
get it on the flare.

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Come on.

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[Phil] Holy [bleep]!

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00:18:31,931 --> 00:18:35,586
Oh, my God.
So, it's below cloud level.

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00:18:35,620 --> 00:18:37,379
Jess, get over here.

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00:18:37,413 --> 00:18:38,310
[Jessica] All right.

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00:18:39,551 --> 00:18:40,793
Let me see, let me see.

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Check that out.

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I could not pick that up
on my flare.

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It is traveling fast.

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[Phil] Really fast.

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00:18:50,413 --> 00:18:51,862
Oh, that definitely looks...

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-...like a disk.
-Oh, my gosh.

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Holy [bleep], I lost it.

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[Jessica] The object appeared
to accelerate out of frame

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and we were unable
to locate it after that,

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leaving Phil and I
to try to make sense of
what the hell we just saw.

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-So, it came from
the direction of Socorro.
-[Jessica] Uh-huh.

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[Phil] It pivoted suddenly
and started heading towards

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White Sands
and Holloman Air Force base.

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[Jessica] It didn't have
a heat signature.

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[Phil] So, it's not a plane,
'cause the thermal would've
definitely picked up

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on the heat coming off it.

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The spin is weird.
The speed,
the height is weird.

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I don't know what that is.

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We saw a UFO.

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An unidentified flying object.

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00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,517
The spin is weird.
The speed,
the height is weird.

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I don't know what that is.

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We saw a UFO.

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An unidentified flying object.

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The shape, speed and rotation
of the object we saw tonight,

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is similar to the, now famous,
video captured by

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United States Navy
F/A 18 Pilots.

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-[on radio] Look at
that thing!
-It's...

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[Jessica] For me
the similarities between
our UFO and the Navy's

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are impossible to ignore.

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00:20:15,034 --> 00:20:17,344
But what exactly
are these objects?

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In the case of
the F/A 18 sighting,
our own government admits,

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they haven't got a clue.

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-[on radio] See the disk?
-[on radio] My gosh.

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00:20:26,448 --> 00:20:29,034
[Phil] It's not lost on me
that Lonnie Zamora claimed
to see

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a strange egg-shaped craft
touch down just ten miles
from this location.

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But as I replay in my mind
what Jess and I
experienced tonight,

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something happened just before
the object appeared.

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Lightning lit up the sky.

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Oh, I just saw
some lightning down there.

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I can't help but wonder
if that could be a clue
to understanding

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what is really going on
here in New Mexico.

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00:20:58,034 --> 00:21:00,586
Oh! That was...
I wasn't prepared for that.

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00:21:01,724 --> 00:21:04,896
Oh, that is so steep though.
Holy [bleep] don't look.

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00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:06,724
Oh, my gosh,
I'm not gonna look.

404
00:21:06,758 --> 00:21:08,965
Why are you taking me
up this road?

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00:21:10,551 --> 00:21:12,034
[Phil] Oh yeah, get this.

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Last year, New Mexico had
twice the normal rate
of lightning strikes.

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The same year
that New Mexico is reporting
way more UFO sightings.

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00:21:23,758 --> 00:21:27,620
And last night,
lightning struck right before
I saw the object.

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00:21:27,655 --> 00:21:29,448
Maybe it's all connected.

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00:21:29,482 --> 00:21:32,068
[Jessica] I'll admit that
some types of lightning,
like ball lightning,

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have been used to explain
some UFOs. But I don't think
that's what we saw.

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00:21:39,241 --> 00:21:42,034
[Phil] There happens to be
a facility
at the top of this hill,

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00:21:42,068 --> 00:21:46,827
that specializes
in rare atmospheric phenomena
in New Mexico.

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Called them up this morning,
they're happy to see us.

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00:21:48,931 --> 00:21:50,724
So, let's see
what answers they have.

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-[Harald] Hello.
-[Jessica] Hi.

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00:21:59,241 --> 00:22:00,103
How are you?

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00:22:00,137 --> 00:22:01,275
-We're good.
-[Jessica] Good.

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00:22:01,310 --> 00:22:03,000
-Come on in.
The door right there.
-Thank you.

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00:22:03,034 --> 00:22:04,586
[Phil] The door that says,
"Danger, keep out"?

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00:22:04,620 --> 00:22:06,551
Don't worry about it,
that's the one.

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00:22:06,586 --> 00:22:09,344
[Jessica] I'll let you go
first. You're welcome.

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00:22:09,379 --> 00:22:11,586
[Phil] I've arranged a meeting
with Harald Edens,

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00:22:11,620 --> 00:22:15,310
the director of
the Langmuir Laboratory
for Atmospheric Research.

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00:22:15,344 --> 00:22:17,724
This guy studies lightning
for a living.

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00:22:17,758 --> 00:22:19,344
Yeah, I'm pretty jealous.

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00:22:22,344 --> 00:22:23,758
Welcome to the top
of the world.

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00:22:28,172 --> 00:22:29,931
[Phil] Here's why we are here.

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00:22:29,965 --> 00:22:33,586
One theory I've had
about UFO sightings
around here,

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00:22:33,620 --> 00:22:35,862
is it could just be lightning.

431
00:22:35,896 --> 00:22:38,413
or some kind of
atmospheric phenomenon
making people think

432
00:22:38,448 --> 00:22:41,137
-they're seeing
a flying aircraft, so...
-Right.

433
00:22:41,172 --> 00:22:43,862
...have you seen examples
of lightning that
could be confused

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00:22:43,896 --> 00:22:45,137
with something like UFO?

435
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,448
Yes, I have.
Let's go check it out.

436
00:22:49,275 --> 00:22:52,620
[Phil] Since 1963,
scientists here
have been studying

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00:22:52,655 --> 00:22:56,000
and provoking lightning
with ingenious technology.

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00:22:56,034 --> 00:22:58,517
They've used weather balloons,
electric cables

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00:22:58,551 --> 00:23:03,000
and even rockets shot directly
into storm clouds.

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00:23:03,034 --> 00:23:06,689
I feel like
this whole building looks like
the coolest movie set ever.

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00:23:06,724 --> 00:23:10,344
It's a time capsule now.
Because nowadays, everything
can be done by just,

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00:23:10,379 --> 00:23:11,655
basically computer right here.

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00:23:13,758 --> 00:23:15,620
[Phil] The scientists here
have managed to capture

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00:23:15,655 --> 00:23:18,172
incredible footage
of all kinds of lightning,

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00:23:18,206 --> 00:23:20,689
and extremely rare
atmospheric phenomenon.

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00:23:20,724 --> 00:23:24,793
Which could explain
the massive number
of UFO sightings in the area.

447
00:23:24,827 --> 00:23:26,793
This is intracloud lightning.

448
00:23:26,827 --> 00:23:28,379
[Jessica] Whoa.

449
00:23:28,413 --> 00:23:29,827
[Harald] So,
intracloud lightning is

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00:23:29,862 --> 00:23:31,413
entirely within
the thunderstorm.

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00:23:31,448 --> 00:23:34,137
It lights up. The people see
like a flash of light
suddenly,

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00:23:34,172 --> 00:23:37,620
but you may not know
there is
lightning storm around.

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00:23:37,655 --> 00:23:40,620
[Phil] Another type
of rare lightning takes place
about 50 miles

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00:23:40,655 --> 00:23:42,103
above the surface
of the earth.

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00:23:42,137 --> 00:23:43,620
We have something
called sprites.

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00:23:43,655 --> 00:23:45,241
That looks like
an alien invasion.

457
00:23:45,275 --> 00:23:48,000
And that does look like
straight out of
War of the Worlds.

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00:23:48,034 --> 00:23:49,965
[Phil] The luminous tendrils
in sprite lightning

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00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,448
can spread out
for dozens of miles.

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00:23:52,482 --> 00:23:56,172
Which could easily
be misinterpreted as something
from another world.

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00:23:56,206 --> 00:23:58,793
But I am eager to ask
Dr. Edens his opinion

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00:23:58,827 --> 00:24:00,586
about a theoretical type of
lightning,

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00:24:00,620 --> 00:24:05,517
that many people believe
could be the answer to the
majority of UFO reports.

464
00:24:05,551 --> 00:24:09,172
What about ball lightning?
First of all, is it even real?

465
00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:12,482
I think the evidence
about ball lightning
is so overwhelming

466
00:24:12,517 --> 00:24:14,517
that you basically
have to admit

467
00:24:14,551 --> 00:24:16,517
so to speak,
that ball lightning
probably exists.

468
00:24:17,034 --> 00:24:18,655
[thunder rumbling]

469
00:24:18,689 --> 00:24:21,689
[Jessica] Ball lightning
is usually described as
glowing orbs of electricity

470
00:24:21,724 --> 00:24:25,586
that have been reported
both in the sky
and close to the ground.

471
00:24:25,620 --> 00:24:28,724
They appear for a few seconds
or even a few minutes.

472
00:24:28,758 --> 00:24:33,793
So, it would be something
that would be glowing,
in the air.

473
00:24:33,827 --> 00:24:36,172
-Yeah.
-Persisting for
at least several seconds,

474
00:24:36,206 --> 00:24:37,827
and potentially moving.

475
00:24:37,862 --> 00:24:39,310
It's usually moving.

476
00:24:39,344 --> 00:24:41,482
Based on eyewitness reports.

477
00:24:41,517 --> 00:24:44,103
[Phil] The fact that
a top atmospheric scientist
believes

478
00:24:44,137 --> 00:24:46,551
ball lightning is
a real phenomenon,

479
00:24:46,586 --> 00:24:49,586
means it could easily
be misidentified as a UFO.

480
00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:51,965
And after seeing
unusual forms of lightning

481
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,413
recorded in the same skies
where people
are reporting UFOs,

482
00:24:55,448 --> 00:24:57,482
it could explain
a lot of sightings.

483
00:24:57,517 --> 00:25:01,655
But I'll admit,
these examples don't match
what we saw last night

484
00:25:01,689 --> 00:25:06,137
and whatever
Lonnie Zamora witnessed
in 1964.

485
00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:09,551
With questions still looming,
we decide tocheck-in
with Josh

486
00:25:09,586 --> 00:25:10,862
to update him on our progress.

487
00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:13,000
-Hey, Josh.
-Hi.

488
00:25:13,034 --> 00:25:14,517
Greetings, earthlings.

489
00:25:14,551 --> 00:25:17,344
How goes the search?
Any little green men yet?

490
00:25:17,379 --> 00:25:21,172
No little green men,
but man, we have seen
some weird stuff.

491
00:25:21,206 --> 00:25:22,482
Really?

492
00:25:22,517 --> 00:25:23,379
-Oh, yeah.
-Yeah.

493
00:25:23,413 --> 00:25:26,034
We actually went to
the top of a mesa

494
00:25:26,068 --> 00:25:27,724
-and sure enough
when we were up there,
-Yeah.

495
00:25:27,758 --> 00:25:29,275
we saw a weird glowing light.

496
00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:31,482
What the [bleep]!

497
00:25:32,620 --> 00:25:33,689
It was strange.

498
00:25:33,724 --> 00:25:36,172
Wait, Phil, did you see a UFO?

499
00:25:36,206 --> 00:25:38,379
Yeah, that's what
I'm trying to tell you.

500
00:25:38,413 --> 00:25:40,655
But for me
it still keeps coming down
to the fact that there is

501
00:25:40,689 --> 00:25:43,137
so much military activity
around here.

502
00:25:43,172 --> 00:25:46,103
To your point, Phil,
there are a lot of things
flying around up there.

503
00:25:46,137 --> 00:25:48,103
I wanna play something
for you actually.

504
00:25:48,137 --> 00:25:51,482
This is a conversation
between two commercial pilots

505
00:25:51,517 --> 00:25:55,448
that was captured
fairly recently in the area
that you are investigating.

506
00:25:55,482 --> 00:25:56,655
Listen to this. You ready?

507
00:25:56,689 --> 00:25:57,758
-Yeah.
-[Jessica] Mm-hm, yeah.

508
00:26:27,758 --> 00:26:28,965
Whoa.

509
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,000
-Did he just say UFO?
-Oh, UFO!

510
00:26:32,655 --> 00:26:33,965
[Phil] He really said that.

511
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,137
[Josh] Yes, this is literally
just one account.

512
00:26:36,172 --> 00:26:38,068
There are several of these
that've recently happened.

513
00:26:38,103 --> 00:26:39,862
we're talking
commercial pilots,

514
00:26:39,896 --> 00:26:43,793
Air Force personnel,
air traffic controllers,
all in this area.

515
00:26:43,827 --> 00:26:46,137
They're really credible,
and after a lot of work

516
00:26:46,172 --> 00:26:48,965
I have finally convinced
one of them to talk with you

517
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,758
about another mass sighting
that happened just last week.

518
00:26:55,482 --> 00:26:58,793
[Jessica] Until now,
few have gone on record
to talk about this

519
00:26:58,827 --> 00:27:01,206
new UFO sighting over Socorro.

520
00:27:01,241 --> 00:27:05,586
But Josh managed to track down
a woman that works
at a nearby military base.

521
00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:07,517
Who not only
witnessed the event,

522
00:27:07,551 --> 00:27:09,689
she caught it on camera.

523
00:27:09,724 --> 00:27:15,034
She's agreed to speak with us,
but only on the condition
that we obscure her identity.

524
00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:18,551
I know
that you didn't wanna have
your image on camera,

525
00:27:18,586 --> 00:27:22,103
so I really appreciate
you taking the time
to talk with us.

526
00:27:22,137 --> 00:27:24,551
-Yeah, definitely.
-Can you walk us
through the night?

527
00:27:24,586 --> 00:27:26,965
Like, what did you see?

528
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,862
[witness] I was driving home
from Socorro to Magdalena.

529
00:27:30,620 --> 00:27:32,206
I had my kids in the car.

530
00:27:32,241 --> 00:27:35,310
And I started to hear
this rattling in my engine.

531
00:27:35,344 --> 00:27:37,379
So I pulled the car over.

532
00:27:37,413 --> 00:27:41,000
And that's when I noticed
a single light
coming towards us in the sky.

533
00:27:45,103 --> 00:27:49,206
So, I gave my daughter
my cellphone and asked her
to film it for us.

534
00:27:49,241 --> 00:27:51,965
[Jessica] When we pull up
the footage
that her daughter captured,

535
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,344
you can clearly see
an unidentified light.

536
00:27:55,379 --> 00:27:57,379
-Whoa.
-[Phil] Oh. Wow.

537
00:27:57,413 --> 00:27:58,827
Right there.

538
00:27:58,862 --> 00:28:01,206
There's definitely something
in the sky.

539
00:28:01,241 --> 00:28:03,586
It's hard to make out exactly
what we are seeing,

540
00:28:03,620 --> 00:28:08,000
but a closer look
reveals something
even stranger.

541
00:28:08,034 --> 00:28:10,517
There is more than one,
oh, my God.

542
00:28:18,448 --> 00:28:22,137
[Josh] My team is reviewing
eyewitness footage
captured just last week

543
00:28:22,172 --> 00:28:25,413
of unexplained lights
in the Socorro night sky,

544
00:28:25,448 --> 00:28:28,275
by a woman who wishes
to remain anonymous.

545
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:31,620
[Jessica] There is
more than one, oh, my God.

546
00:28:31,655 --> 00:28:34,379
[witness] You could see
it was actually
multiple lights.

547
00:28:34,413 --> 00:28:36,448
[Jessica] Oh, my gosh.
Look at that.

548
00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:38,758
-I do see
multiple lights.
-Yeah, me too.

549
00:28:38,793 --> 00:28:40,655
You can see there is what,
three, four different lights.

550
00:28:40,689 --> 00:28:42,103
[Jessica] Yeah,
like a whole line of them.

551
00:28:44,206 --> 00:28:45,172
Interesting.

552
00:28:45,206 --> 00:28:47,482
So you don't think you saw
just a single UFO,

553
00:28:47,517 --> 00:28:49,793
you think you saw,
what, a formation of them?

554
00:28:49,827 --> 00:28:52,620
It seemed kind of like
the fleet of craft.

555
00:28:52,655 --> 00:28:54,965
Which direction
did you see those lights?

556
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,103
I saw the lights
to the southeast,

557
00:28:57,137 --> 00:28:59,827
hovering right around
South Baldy peak.

558
00:28:59,862 --> 00:29:04,448
Heard stories about UFOs,
and aliens but
I've always been skeptic.

559
00:29:04,482 --> 00:29:08,310
After this,
I don't know what to think.

560
00:29:08,344 --> 00:29:11,655
[Jessica] According
to our eyewitness,
the strange fleet of craft

561
00:29:11,689 --> 00:29:13,793
were flying over
South Baldy peak,

562
00:29:13,827 --> 00:29:17,896
just east of Socorro,
and the legendary
Zamora landing site.

563
00:29:17,931 --> 00:29:21,551
So, we're heading
over 10,000 feet
into the Magdalena mountains

564
00:29:21,586 --> 00:29:23,896
And thank God there is a road.

565
00:29:23,931 --> 00:29:26,448
-[Phil] That is really high.
-[Jessica] That is like...

566
00:29:26,482 --> 00:29:28,275
-Keeping my eyes
on the road. Okay.
-[Phil] You got this.

567
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:29,379
[Jessica] I got it.

568
00:29:29,413 --> 00:29:31,931
This position also offers
a direct line of sight

569
00:29:31,965 --> 00:29:33,551
towards White Sands
missile range,

570
00:29:33,586 --> 00:29:36,793
and Holloman Air Force base
to the southeast.

571
00:29:36,827 --> 00:29:40,034
With no lightning
in the forecast,
there will be no mistaking

572
00:29:40,068 --> 00:29:42,793
anything we see
as atmospheric phenomenon.

573
00:29:42,827 --> 00:29:47,482
And tonight, I'll be deploying
a brand new technique
to hunt for UFOs.

574
00:29:47,517 --> 00:29:49,793
And it's gonna
blow Phil's mind.

575
00:29:49,827 --> 00:29:51,965
[Phil] What is this?

576
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,517
[Jessica] I'll show you.

577
00:29:53,551 --> 00:29:55,448
Three, two, one.

578
00:30:00,448 --> 00:30:01,689
[Phil] What?

579
00:30:01,724 --> 00:30:03,655
[Jessica] Right?

580
00:30:03,689 --> 00:30:07,448
So, one of the theories
running around
the UFO circles right now

581
00:30:07,482 --> 00:30:09,965
is that aliens
are attracted to anything

582
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,931
that has
a lot of lights and lasers.

583
00:30:11,965 --> 00:30:13,896
So, I figured
we'd bring this out here,

584
00:30:13,931 --> 00:30:16,137
we're out
in the middle of nowhere

585
00:30:16,172 --> 00:30:18,241
and try and lure some UFOs in.

586
00:30:18,275 --> 00:30:21,896
So, they're like,
space cats in the sky
following laser pointers?

587
00:30:21,931 --> 00:30:23,551
Pretty much.

588
00:30:23,586 --> 00:30:27,793
It may sound far-fetched,
but a few years ago,
an astrophysicist at MIT

589
00:30:27,827 --> 00:30:30,965
proposed shooting
a high powered laser
into deep space

590
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,758
to attract extraterrestrials
to earth.

591
00:30:33,793 --> 00:30:36,344
They have yet to put the plan
into action,

592
00:30:36,379 --> 00:30:38,655
so allow me
to make some history.

593
00:30:38,689 --> 00:30:41,275
Now, while my setup
won't beam into deep space,

594
00:30:41,310 --> 00:30:44,413
it is reaching
the outer edges
of our atmosphere.

595
00:30:44,448 --> 00:30:47,241
So, if any visitors to earth
are in the neighborhood,

596
00:30:47,275 --> 00:30:50,379
maybe this
will get their attention.

597
00:30:50,413 --> 00:30:54,241
You know, the other night,
when we filmed what we filmed
in the sky, I realized that,

598
00:30:54,275 --> 00:30:56,724
that low light IR camera
didn't quite have

599
00:30:56,758 --> 00:30:58,620
the resolution
I was looking for.

600
00:30:58,655 --> 00:31:00,517
This is the PVS 14.

601
00:31:00,551 --> 00:31:04,000
This is essentially
military-grade
night vision technology.

602
00:31:04,034 --> 00:31:07,068
This thing is gonna let us see
absolutely everything
out there.

603
00:31:07,103 --> 00:31:08,551
Well, I'm gonna head out
with my night vision.

604
00:31:08,586 --> 00:31:10,586
Are you just gonna sit here
and stare at your lasers?

605
00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:14,310
As much as I would like to
hang out here and sing
Pink Floyd to myself,

606
00:31:14,344 --> 00:31:17,862
you know a lot of people say
that when they see these UFOs,

607
00:31:17,896 --> 00:31:20,413
that there is not any sound
that they can hear.

608
00:31:20,448 --> 00:31:23,103
But maybe it's just because
the sound they do emit

609
00:31:23,137 --> 00:31:25,551
is just too faint
for the human ear to pick up.

610
00:31:25,586 --> 00:31:27,793
So, I figured I'd bring
the parabolic mic,

611
00:31:27,827 --> 00:31:31,413
you can be the eyes,
I'll be the ears,
lasers will be the lure,

612
00:31:31,448 --> 00:31:34,000
and any sound that I pick up,
I can record,

613
00:31:34,034 --> 00:31:36,862
and we can go back and listen
and analyze it later.

614
00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:38,586
All right. Sounds like a plan.

615
00:31:47,655 --> 00:31:51,379
All right.
This thing can see anything
out here in the dark.

616
00:31:51,413 --> 00:31:54,724
This military-grade scope
can amplify
any surrounding light

617
00:31:54,758 --> 00:31:57,827
more than
any night vision device
in the world.

618
00:31:57,862 --> 00:32:00,931
But there's one problem,
is that it can't record.

619
00:32:00,965 --> 00:32:05,517
So that's why
we 3D printed this.

620
00:32:05,551 --> 00:32:09,586
A mount for the scope
that attaches to a smartphone

621
00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:11,965
that we can record on,
so we'll get my evidence.

622
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:18,482
Look at that.
There's just lasers.

623
00:32:21,689 --> 00:32:25,103
I don't know
if anybody's ever tried
to actually record

624
00:32:25,137 --> 00:32:28,724
a UFO sound
with something like this.

625
00:32:30,137 --> 00:32:31,551
Maybe we'll get lucky.

626
00:32:42,689 --> 00:32:44,724
Wait, I'm getting something.

627
00:32:44,758 --> 00:32:46,000
[low hum]

628
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,137
So, I'm kinda picking up

629
00:32:51,172 --> 00:32:54,586
a persistent hum
in this direction.

630
00:32:54,620 --> 00:32:55,758
A low hum.

631
00:32:59,931 --> 00:33:01,068
There, right there.

632
00:33:03,275 --> 00:33:04,724
What the [bleep]

633
00:33:10,137 --> 00:33:11,000
Phil, are you there?

634
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,724
[Phil] Yeah, I'm here,
how's it going?

635
00:33:13,758 --> 00:33:16,000
-[pager beeping]
-I keep hearing things.

636
00:33:16,034 --> 00:33:18,310
[Phil] Um,
what are you hearing?

637
00:33:18,344 --> 00:33:21,551
[Jessica] I don't know
what it is. It's kind of
like this low hum.

638
00:33:21,586 --> 00:33:24,724
Are you seeing anything
or hearing anything
on your end?

639
00:33:24,758 --> 00:33:27,551
[Phil] I'm hearing nothing
on my end.

640
00:33:27,586 --> 00:33:29,655
It is completely silent
out here.

641
00:33:29,689 --> 00:33:31,724
Okay, I'll let you know
if I hear anything else.

642
00:33:36,689 --> 00:33:38,793
[Jessica] After an hour
of scanning the skies,

643
00:33:38,827 --> 00:33:42,137
we're definitely
not getting lucky.

644
00:33:42,172 --> 00:33:43,310
And then...

645
00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:45,413
Wait.

646
00:33:45,931 --> 00:33:47,034
It's back.

647
00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:48,379
That hum is back.

648
00:33:48,413 --> 00:33:49,689
[low hum]

649
00:33:49,724 --> 00:33:51,758
[Phil] Whoa, whoa, whoa,
do you see that?
Do you see that?

650
00:33:52,448 --> 00:33:54,206
What the hell is that?

651
00:33:54,241 --> 00:33:55,586
It's traveling south.

652
00:33:57,379 --> 00:33:58,827
It's hard to keep focus on it.

653
00:34:00,724 --> 00:34:03,068
It's starting to disappear
behind the clouds.

654
00:34:06,758 --> 00:34:08,000
Jess, you there?
Are you there?

655
00:34:08,034 --> 00:34:10,517
-[Jessica] I'm here.
-I saw something.

656
00:34:10,551 --> 00:34:12,241
[Phil] I don't know
what that was.

657
00:34:12,275 --> 00:34:15,586
It wasn't flashing
like a plane and I don't think
it was a satellite.

658
00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:18,896
We've been seeing
some weird stuff out here,
so who knows.

659
00:34:18,931 --> 00:34:20,931
[Jessica] Do you still
have eyes on it?

660
00:34:20,965 --> 00:34:24,793
[Phil] No, I lost it.
It was heading south,
towards White Sands.

661
00:34:29,068 --> 00:34:31,275
[Jessica] I continue listening
for any strange sounds,

662
00:34:31,310 --> 00:34:34,862
while Phil keeps scanning
the stars with
the military-grade scope.

663
00:34:39,517 --> 00:34:44,000
But after scouring the sky
for hours, there is
nothing else to report.

664
00:34:45,413 --> 00:34:48,000
[Phil] I'm shocked that
Jess and I managed to record

665
00:34:48,034 --> 00:34:52,620
not one but two
unidentified flying objects
in a single week out here.

666
00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,517
Both were travelling
in the same direction, south,

667
00:34:55,551 --> 00:34:57,275
towards White Sands
missile range.

668
00:34:59,827 --> 00:35:02,344
So, as a new day dawns,
we work the phones

669
00:35:02,379 --> 00:35:06,482
to try to gain access
to this highly secured
military base.

670
00:35:06,517 --> 00:35:11,551
Unfortunately,
our request for information
have so far, been denied.

671
00:35:11,586 --> 00:35:14,931
[Jessica] Yeah,
real shocker there.
But here's the good news.

672
00:35:14,965 --> 00:35:18,689
We located
a fellow investigator
who has uncovered a new link

673
00:35:18,724 --> 00:35:20,655
between
the White Sands Missile Range

674
00:35:20,689 --> 00:35:24,000
and the 1964
Lonnie Zamora incident.

675
00:35:24,034 --> 00:35:27,275
And he has a paper trail
to prove it.

676
00:35:27,310 --> 00:35:28,517
-Hi.
-Hey, Dave.

677
00:35:28,551 --> 00:35:30,344
Glad we could finally
track you down.

678
00:35:30,379 --> 00:35:32,137
Nice to talk to you.

679
00:35:32,172 --> 00:35:34,689
[Phil] Dave Thomas
is a scientist, mathematician,

680
00:35:34,724 --> 00:35:36,724
and president of
the investigative group,

681
00:35:36,758 --> 00:35:39,206
New Mexicans for Science
and Reason.

682
00:35:39,241 --> 00:35:42,103
And after tireless research
and study, he believes

683
00:35:42,137 --> 00:35:44,551
he's finally cracked
the Zamora case.

684
00:35:44,586 --> 00:35:47,034
So, you have great
new evidence on
the Socorro incident,

685
00:35:47,068 --> 00:35:48,758
do you mind
sharing that with us?

686
00:35:48,793 --> 00:35:52,034
I think the best explanation
is probably is this.

687
00:36:00,034 --> 00:36:03,827
It sounds extraordinary
that UFOs visited Socorro,
New Mexico,

688
00:36:03,862 --> 00:36:06,103
to keep tabs
on our nuclear arsenal.

689
00:36:06,137 --> 00:36:08,344
Unless, of course,
it's happened before

690
00:36:08,379 --> 00:36:11,551
and many claim it did,
across the pond.

691
00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:15,896
It's called
the Rendlesham forest incident
dubbed Britain's Roswell.

692
00:36:15,931 --> 00:36:21,344
In 1980, military personnel
claimed to spot UFOs
near RAF Bentwaters,

693
00:36:21,379 --> 00:36:23,931
an airbase in England
that was being used
at the time

694
00:36:23,965 --> 00:36:25,482
by the U.S. Air Force.

695
00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:28,034
I've personally investigated
this story and met with

696
00:36:28,068 --> 00:36:30,000
former deputy commander
of the base,

697
00:36:30,034 --> 00:36:31,931
Lieutenant Colonel
Charles Holt.

698
00:36:31,965 --> 00:36:33,827
[man 1] There it is,
I see it too.

699
00:36:33,862 --> 00:36:34,862
[man 2] What is it?

700
00:36:34,896 --> 00:36:36,551
[man 1] We don't
know, sir.

701
00:36:36,586 --> 00:36:40,137
[Josh] Colonel Holt claimed
that an unidentified craft
shot a beam of light

702
00:36:40,172 --> 00:36:42,827
into the base's
weapon storage facility,

703
00:36:42,862 --> 00:36:46,137
which had long been rumored
to house nuclear weapons.

704
00:36:46,172 --> 00:36:49,344
If an alien craft
really did visit that base,

705
00:36:49,379 --> 00:36:51,172
maybe now, we know why.

706
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,482
[Josh] Jess and Phil
have been investigating
unidentified objects

707
00:37:01,517 --> 00:37:04,379
that have been reported
over Socorro, New Mexico

708
00:37:04,413 --> 00:37:10,862
since officer Lonnie Zamora
claimed to have encountered
an alien craft in 1964.

709
00:37:10,896 --> 00:37:14,724
And scientist Dave Thomas
might have just discovered
hard evidence,

710
00:37:14,758 --> 00:37:19,655
that can finally explain
one of the most iconic events
in UFO history.

711
00:37:19,689 --> 00:37:23,724
I think that explanation,
probably is this.

712
00:37:23,758 --> 00:37:25,862
-Oh, that is interesting.
-Oh, wow.

713
00:37:25,896 --> 00:37:30,482
The White Sands Missile Range
was testing
the lunar surveyor,

714
00:37:30,517 --> 00:37:33,172
on April 24th, 1964.

715
00:37:33,206 --> 00:37:35,413
And we have logs
from the range.

716
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,724
[Phil] April 24th, 1964,

717
00:37:39,758 --> 00:37:43,034
the very same day,
Lonnie Zamora
had his encounter.

718
00:37:43,068 --> 00:37:46,517
And according to the test logs
from the
White Sands Missile Range,

719
00:37:46,551 --> 00:37:51,068
it's the same day they were
testing this highly secretive
lunar surveyor.

720
00:37:51,103 --> 00:37:54,344
Keep in mind,
this was at the height
of the space race.

721
00:37:54,379 --> 00:37:58,965
And five full years before
Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin
landed on the moon.

722
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,931
The surveyor
had three landing pods,

723
00:38:01,965 --> 00:38:04,482
and then it had
four rocket engines.

724
00:38:04,517 --> 00:38:08,862
And yeah, would have been
one of the strangest gadgets
you can imagine.

725
00:38:08,896 --> 00:38:12,448
One of the things that Lonnie
mentioned seeing
when you came across the UFO,

726
00:38:12,482 --> 00:38:16,344
was the fact that it had this
blue flame shooting up
from underneath it

727
00:38:16,379 --> 00:38:18,931
which scorched the earth
around it.
What could that have been?

728
00:38:18,965 --> 00:38:22,655
I think
what they were testing is,
there's these rockets,

729
00:38:22,689 --> 00:38:24,517
they were on the bottom
of the craft.

730
00:38:24,551 --> 00:38:27,275
Lonnie Zamora did see
something strange,

731
00:38:27,310 --> 00:38:30,068
but we think it's probably
from White Sands,

732
00:38:30,103 --> 00:38:32,034
not from outer space.

733
00:38:32,068 --> 00:38:35,000
Is there anything else
about Zamora's description
that you think

734
00:38:35,034 --> 00:38:37,586
matches up
to this lunar lander?

735
00:38:37,620 --> 00:38:40,172
The two guys in the coveralls
could have been...

736
00:38:41,827 --> 00:38:43,482
...the people in
the helicopter.

737
00:38:44,068 --> 00:38:45,793
That is interesting.

738
00:38:45,827 --> 00:38:49,344
Since gravity on the moon
is six times less than that
on the earth,

739
00:38:49,379 --> 00:38:51,482
the surveyor was suspended
from a helicopter

740
00:38:51,517 --> 00:38:54,172
to mimic the conditions
of a lunar landing.

741
00:38:54,206 --> 00:38:57,482
And that helicopter
was piloted by two people.

742
00:38:57,517 --> 00:39:01,034
The same number of beings
that officer Zamora described.

743
00:39:01,068 --> 00:39:05,793
Dave also has an explanation
for one of the landing's
most puzzling details,

744
00:39:05,827 --> 00:39:09,793
the strange symbol
that officer Zamora
reported adorning the craft.

745
00:39:09,827 --> 00:39:14,275
Lonnie Zamora actually said
he saw some sort of symbol
on the side of the craft.

746
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:15,103
The logo...

747
00:39:16,275 --> 00:39:19,862
...that Lonnie saw,
may have been...

748
00:39:21,172 --> 00:39:24,310
...from, uh,
Hughes Aircraft Company.

749
00:39:24,344 --> 00:39:26,655
[Phil] The Hughes Aircraft
Company actually built

750
00:39:26,689 --> 00:39:29,275
the first lunar surveyor
for NASA.

751
00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:33,379
And that actually matches up
to a known company
at the time?

752
00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,379
Pretty close to what's
on Howard Hughes's
business card.

753
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:39,689
Man, that's a pretty
good match.

754
00:39:39,724 --> 00:39:41,241
[Phil] Yeah, I can see it.

755
00:39:41,275 --> 00:39:44,413
While not an exact match,
you can definitely see
the similarities,

756
00:39:44,448 --> 00:39:48,000
considering Lonnie Zamora
sketched the symbol he saw
from memory.

757
00:39:48,034 --> 00:39:52,448
How come Project Bluebook
didn't know White Sands
was launching,

758
00:39:52,482 --> 00:39:54,551
you know, test equipment
that day?

759
00:39:54,586 --> 00:39:58,931
You know, when you work on
a classified facility like
White Sands Missile Range,

760
00:39:58,965 --> 00:40:02,931
they have
compartmentalization
and need-to-know.

761
00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:06,413
So, the government might have
been keeping secrets
from itself, essentially?

762
00:40:06,448 --> 00:40:07,655
Uh, it does it every day.

763
00:40:08,793 --> 00:40:11,206
-Thank you, Dave.
-Thank you, Dave.

764
00:40:11,241 --> 00:40:13,413
All right, what do you think?

765
00:40:13,448 --> 00:40:17,448
Well, this Socorro thing,
completely unexplainable.

766
00:40:17,482 --> 00:40:20,931
-Mm-hm.
-And bizarre.
And then we talked to Dave.

767
00:40:21,448 --> 00:40:23,551
I have to say,

768
00:40:23,586 --> 00:40:25,862
what Dave is bringing
to the table,

769
00:40:26,896 --> 00:40:29,344
-is tough to ignore.
-It makes so much sense.

770
00:40:29,379 --> 00:40:33,482
He actually has solid proof
that White Sands military base

771
00:40:33,517 --> 00:40:38,103
had scheduled that lunar test
that same day.

772
00:40:38,137 --> 00:40:41,896
But it still
doesn't explain away
all UFO sightings.

773
00:40:43,655 --> 00:40:46,517
[Josh] Based on this
new revelation,
the Lonnie Zamora incident

774
00:40:46,551 --> 00:40:51,379
is most likely explained
by top-secret testing
of a lunar surveyor.

775
00:40:51,413 --> 00:40:54,655
But, as Jess points out,
this does not discount

776
00:40:54,689 --> 00:40:57,034
every strange sighting
over Socorro.

777
00:40:57,068 --> 00:41:01,103
And, there may be more
to this story,
than meets the eye.

778
00:41:01,137 --> 00:41:03,310
After further analysis
and enhancement of

779
00:41:03,344 --> 00:41:06,000
the mysterious object
captured above the mesa...

780
00:41:06,448 --> 00:41:07,827
What is this?

781
00:41:07,862 --> 00:41:09,931
[Jessica] Oh, look at it spin.

782
00:41:09,965 --> 00:41:14,758
...and after isolating
the strange sounds collected
on the parabolic microphone,

783
00:41:14,793 --> 00:41:19,068
both pieces of evidence
remain unidentified.

784
00:41:19,103 --> 00:41:23,310
There's little doubt
that life exists beyond earth
somewhere in the universe,

785
00:41:23,344 --> 00:41:25,862
as for those who insist
they witnessed aliens

786
00:41:25,896 --> 00:41:28,103
flying over the skies
of Socorro,

787
00:41:28,137 --> 00:41:29,931
that remains to be proven.

788
00:41:30,655 --> 00:41:32,862
So, keep looking skyward,

789
00:41:32,896 --> 00:41:35,379
because the truth really is,
out there.

790
00:41:38,379 --> 00:41:40,551
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on Expedition X,

791
00:41:40,586 --> 00:41:43,655
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